“Of course it is difficult, the psychologist said, to determine the exact day where you say, up to that point you can still remove it, because it isn't a human being yet, I mean soul and everything basically still negligible, and from then on you can't really remove it so well anymore, because there is already too much human after all, and even already a hint of a soul. (...) For example with criminal cases, there is always this kind of development, at first it's actually harmless and not a real crime yet, you just think theoretically about who you'd have to kidnap, if you did it, sort of like a parlor game. And then you think about how you'd have to handle a money handover, that's not a crime yet either. And then maybe you already do a few preparatory chores, buy a good adhesive tape at the hardware store, that's not a crime yet either, finally clean out the basement compartment for once, that's not a crime yet either. ​But then there is that one step where you can't go back anymore, where you can no longer remove reality, where you definitely have the child in the belly or definitely have the kidnap victim in the basement.”